The Paceline Podcast #56

The Paceline Podcast #56

Fatty has identified a new disorder, one for those with too many goals and no ability to prioritize. We name the syndrome and then discuss how there’s no known treatment.  That said, it’s a question any of us are likely to ask: how do I achieve my goal? For Fatty, he wants to break 8 hours at Leadville this year. And after crowdsourcing answers on how to do that, he got a surprising offer. We feature an interview with his new coach: Jonathan Vaughters.

In the news, we discuss the exodus of Outdoor Retailer and other outdoor trade events from Utah because of Governor Herbert’s effort to strip the National Monument designation from Bear’s Ears. We share the explanations from the North American Handmade Bicycle Show and PressCamp for why they aren’t moving the events they are doing in 2017, and how following a call with Governor Herbert, Interbike has chosen not to consider Salt Lake City as a new location.

In other news, H3 Publications has shut down, shuttering two magazines, Decline and Road, and laying off a staff of six.

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  1. David

    I think Vaughters is, at least to some extent, incorrect on the cyclists-personality thing. Look at the stuff that Dan Jones has been doing for Orica, and tell me that’s not excellent at humanizing these amazing athletes.

    1. Author

      It’s fair to point out how Orica is an operation of a different sort. That said, that operation is in the minority; when we consider the history of cycling, what Vaughters said is spot-on. The sport, historically, has been pretty good at making athletes available to fans, but has done little to make them relatable as human beings. What the sport needs is a score of guys like Vaughters and Jones who want to help break the elitist stereotype.

  2. leroy

    Wait, Fatty has a navel ring?
    My dog said that mental image should have been preceded by a trigger warning.
    But I can never tell when he’s serious.
    Excellent podcast!

    1. TomInAlbany

      Padraig, As you’ve often noted, just because it worked for you doesn’t mean it’ll work for him, right?

    2. Author

      So true. It would be a really boring world if all the same things were equally successful for all people. I’m so glad that’s not the case. It does make my job as a reviewer tougher, though.

  3. Geoffrey

    Comment 1: I highly recommend looking into Gene Hamilton ( for mountain bike skills training. In short, it’s about drills, not a secret trick. As JV mentioned, practice, practice, practice. Also, Fatty should look at nutrition counseling. He really needs to have a healthier view of food, instead of the weird relationship he has currently. There is evidence that major weight swings up and down actually leads to a shorter lifespan. Precision Nutrition seems to be sensible in their approach.

    Comment 2: I’ve listened since Episode 1. I like ’em all. Patrick, you should go back and notice how many times your mind has been boggled. One of those bogglings was about how a smaller peloton would lead to fewer crashes. Inner Ring did an article that had numbers that supported that in the big tours. That said, Patrick has had fewer “That makes absolutely zero sense to me” responses lately.

    Comment 3: Yay for Jonathan!

    Comment 4: I would love to see best bike built for under some price point. You each actually have to buy the parts (used or new), get the bike together, and ride it. “Best” can mean whatever you want it to. Also, I think you should have a competition between y’all. And, the final bikes would be auctioned or raffled for WBR. This would answer: best bang for the buck, best resources, what is used vs new, anyone willing to try no-name carbon; and it would raise money for a good cause.

  4. Jeff Dieffenbach

    To the podcast question of whether I approach my season like Fatty (every race is an A race), Hottie (1-2 races are A races), or Patrick (ride hard when I feel like riding hard, but don’t train to optimize performance), I fall into Patrick’s camp.

    That said, I only race 1-2 MTB and FTB races a year, and nothing on the road. I do a lot of CX, but I certainly don’t optimize my summer/fall training to try to improve my results. When I rode Leadville in 2015, I was totally in Hottie-mode–everything was geared toward Leadville. (11:27: 41)

  5. Rohit

    Another great episode! Thanks for sharing Jonathan Vaughters’ thoughts. Loved his comments about making cycling more accessible. Indeed, a Leadville belt buckle is more important than a super bowl ring for the common person. His coaching thoughts were so cool to hear, even if I’ll be bumbling through implementing those techniques myself. And, I can’t wait to see Fatty passing me headed inbound on those Doofy looking aero bars.

    Answering the question posed, I race for the community. One day, I’ll race for the podium. I plan to keep showing up until there’s only 3 of us in the category. That’ll get me on the box!

  6. Jeff Dieffenbach

    @Rohit, we’re on the same page. I’ve got the 2044 CX National Championships marked on my calendar. I’ll be a spry 80 year-old kid (race age, not actual age) hoping to swoop in and snag a podium spot from my elders.

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