The Paceline Podcast 172

The Paceline Podcast 172

This week Selene takes on weight loss once again. She addresses the problems with seeing that as necessary as well as seeing cycling as a vehicle for it, rather than an end in itself. And yet, she still accepts that it is an important goal to many people and she’s a great guide for how to do it, so it may be that some of the issue here is her role as a fitness writer and making peace with providing guidance on something that may not make your cycling experience any more valid.

Patrick’s pull this week isn’t exactly cycling-related. He has been accepted as a patient at a center that provides treatment to people with depression through Ketamine-assisted psychotherapy. Given how often Paceline listeners have shared that they, too, wrestle with depression, it seems appropriate to share this journey and how his first treatment session unfolded. It’s an unusual and innovative approach to dealing with depression and as he reveals, not one that is for the faint of heart.



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    1. Selene Yeager

      Thank you! Sometimes you get off the bike and explore a little, you know? Seriously, it’s such an important and integral part of Patrick’s journey that it didn’t make sense not to talk about it. Thanks for listening!

  1. Scott M.

    While I’d love to discuss fire-breathing stone monsters more (seriously looking forward to that post), your pull delineates a line between cyclists who stick with the sport and those who don’t. I’ve encountered numerous riders who are damn proud of losing 70 lbs through cycling. And they should be. However, many of them fail to sustain their gains (err, losses), in part because the bike is a means to an end. In that paradigm it may as well be a Stairmaster. It kind of misses the point.

    I’ve always argued that real, long-term benefits come to those who, first and foremost, love to ride — for the wind in their hair, the opportunity to explore what’s around that corner, a chance sighting of wildlife, taking the other road, kicking ass, or embracing the suck. In this reality fitness is part a byproduct and partly a ticket to the greatest show on two wheels.

    1. Selene Yeager

      Amen to this! I think some people start using the bike as a means for losing weight but then fall in love and riding simply becomes a mean to an end itself. But yes, I have long preached that weight loss/etc is a byproduct of doing what you love as activity. I agree.

  2. Casey

    This is a great chat to have sat in on. Cycling is so much more than a competition, for sure. Patrick, thanks for using your (really strong) gift of writing as an advocate for whole wellness. I think your self-evaluation of a 95th-percentile cycling writer is on point.

    1. Author

      Thanks much. Cycling and people both continue to surprise me. I think that says more about me than it does them.

  3. TominAlbany

    I wish I’d heard this episode when it came out. It would’ve changed the way I read your trip reports!

    Thanks for the great podcast!

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