Paceline Podcast 150

Paceline Podcast 150

We’re gratified to report that we’ve been hearing from listeners who have been getting health issues checked out as a result of Mark Weir and Jess Cera’s stories.

Selene just did the Hell of Hunterdon and it sounds like she says the first word in the event’s name was well-earned. It brought to mind some recent work by training expert Hunter Allen; he has quantified what it means to burn a match.

This week Patrick takes on a listener question about travel bikes. Do you go eTap? What about discs? For anyone who travels regularly, a travel bike that fits in a standard-size case (62 linear inches) is a wise investment because it will pay for itself in savings on bike case fees with the airline, not to mention how a smaller case is easier to travel with.

Also, Selene explains her phrase, “Optimistic Dude Time.”



Show links:

Leah Flickinger’s interview of pros about depression for Bicycling

VeloToze Waterproof Neoprene Gloves

Castelli Diluvio C Gloves

Gore C5 Gore-Tex Shakedry Cap

Patrick’s reminiscences on Fish Rock


Hell of Hunterdon images: Mike Maney

Fish Rock image of Patrick: Jorge “Koky” Flores, JustPedal

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  1. TomInAlbany

    Another good podcast, as usual. I’m feeling spoiled..

    For S&S coupler installations, I’ve got an 20 year old Ti bike from Serotta. Is it reasonable to assume there’s welding involved and that I need to be fussy about who I choose to install them?

    How much is enough? Every day is different, right? YMMV!

    1. Author

      A Serotta ti bike? Oh, yeah, that’s a perfect bike to get retrofitted with couplers. Go to the S&S site and then check out the list of approved builders. Some, like Bilenky, do retrofits. Bilenky did mine. I figure anyone who does new construction with them is probably good enough to retrofit. And not all retrofits are the same. Some companies want to completely re-do the front triangle, rather than just cut the frame in half and do the install. That can get significantly more expensive. You might talk to No. 22 to see if they’d want to do the work.

    2. TomInAlbany

      Thanks, Padraig. Good feedback. And Johnstown, NY is a reasonable drive from my home and, from what I hear, a great place to ride!

    3. TomInAlbany

      UPDATE: I contacted No. 22 and they don’t have the capacity to do a retrofit. They’re busy making new bikes! It’s a wonderful thing!

  2. Justin Schultz

    Great podcast! My wife and I went to Maui for our 10 year anniversary, and I didn’t ride Haleakala. When we go back I said I’m doing it for sure. In all honesty – how hard is it and how long does it take? I’m a fit recreational cyclist, but I don’t train or race. I’m 37, but not likely at the same fitness level of the two of you.

    1. Author

      Strava says it took me six hours to ride 72 miles. I’m not going to claim I was climbing all that well. I suspect I was climbing most of that at about 6 mph. The climb is never all that steep: long false flats of 3-4% while the main climb is usually in the 5-7% range. The only double-digit grades come in the last kilometer or so. Totally doable. Infinitely worth it.

    2. Neil Winkelmann

      The 100 mile loop around the volcano is on of the great road rides of the world. Interesting that it is almost exactly the same amount of climbing as riding UP the volcano

  3. Jon Benn

    For a couple weeks in a row the “download” hyperlink has not worked. I click, instead of being able to download Pace Line, it just plays.

    1. Author

      I’m looking into it. The code I use on my end is unchanged, so I’ll need to do some digging to see what’s up. Thanks for the heads-up.

  4. Neil Winkelmann

    What do think about the ethics of lying to the gate agent when they ask what’s in the case? You can say “sporting equipment”, but then if they ask “what sport?” How for do you take it? What if they ask “Is it a bike?”

    1. Selene Yeager

      I once said, “Trade show materials” which was only sort of a lie, since I was going to be going to a trade show, too. They always ask if it’s a bike if you say sporting equipment. Hard to hide a bike, unless like Patrick you have a travel bike.

    2. Author

      Back when I traveled with a full-size case, I used the “trade show materials” on a few occasions, all successful. I didn’t always try it, though. On the flip side Hawaiian Air charged me for a bike even though the case wasn’t oversize and their own materials specified that a bike was being charged because it was oversize. I argued until the plane was boarding. They got their $35. As to the bigger question of ethics, I don’t struggle with it because the charges are capricious. They don’t charge for golf clubs because there is a giant golf association that lobbied each major airline for it.

  5. Ted

    I found recently on American Airlines site that a bicycle is still OK if the case is under 62 inches and 50 lbs. So you could honestly say it’s a bike and they shouldn’t charge you extra. YMMV as it’s up to the agent.

    1. Author

      Theoretically, they should only charge if the case is over 62 inches (Hawaiian air being an exception), and the subterfuge I employed was anytime I was flying with a bigger case.

    2. TomInAlbany

      Print it out, Ted. It should NOT be up to the agent if the official website says it is OK.

      Then again, American charges for everything so, you’re going to pay $25 anyway.

  6. Brian Ledford

    just to add one to the “sometimes honesty works out” column, I once paid -25$ for an s and s coupled bike via southwest. the agent at the desk was a casual cyclist and didn’t believe/understand how a full size bike could fit in the case. and she gave me a travel voucher for being willing to open it for her. it has only happened the one time, but hope springs eternal, etc.

  7. Jason D Braaten

    You guys may have addressed elsewhere, but how do you train for everything? I’m currently training for a double century in July, but I would also like to spend some time doing things to very my endurance training routines, however I feel a little bit weird about doing interval training in the middle of a 75 mile bike ride. What do you suggest as a panacea to the problem.

    1. Seano

      Clearly someone like Selene can fill you in more, but I’ve got a little experience with long training: my favorite race is 24 hour solo mtb where races end up being 225+ miles. Slowly building the endurance with long rides on the weekends and eventually back-to-back Sat/Sun huge rides combined with mid week, ride durations of 1-3 hours with varying levels of intensity (intervals etc.). And lots of rest.

      One way to mix it up/enjoy & push yourself on a long ride without resorting to actual interval training is to ride with a group ride or stronger riders and hang with the faster riders/front of the group etc. on every climb or go to the front and let everyone sit in for a while.

  8. Patricia

    On the travel bike question:
    – Frame: I wanted a versatile one (SS coupled), that could fit tires for gravel rides and the occasional cross race. Titanium.
    – Components: I went for the simplicity of mechanical. If you break something, easier to fix. Same philosophy with wheel construction. When you travel, you can ride in rural areas, smaller towns, and there usually isn’t a fancy shop to fix things. I just remove the rear brake caliper and coil the line into a zip lock bag taped to the handlebar.

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