The Paceline Podcast #54

The Paceline Podcast #54

In this week’s show we take on a universal question: What is Fatty’s ideal weight? Okay, maybe that one isn’t quite universal. But this one is: What is YOUR ideal race weight. Fatty talks to Jonathan Lee, director of business development for Trainer Road. Lee lends some insight into the process and geeks out on body fat measurement along the way.

In our second segment we discuss heat and whether or not it’s wise to pack. Yes, we broach the topic of bringing handguns on group rides and the implications should someone choose to bring one along. And amazingly, there’s a company out there making a jersey with a zippered pocket to hold a small handgun.

We also interview Tony Karklins, the CEO for HIA Velo, the parent company for the new brand Allied Cycle Works. Karklins has set up carbon fiber frame manufacturing in Little Rock and we talk with him about what gave rise to this new brand.

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Thule Crossover Carry-On

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  1. Brian Bartels

    Guns on bikes is simply an continuation of the overall gun debate. Those who should never carry due personality, or other issues are not generally disposed following the law in the first place.
    I never have considered carrying while riding, and never considered carrying. Until a bear cub ran in front of me on a trail and mamma bear was still on the other side of the trail. With me between the bears I thought of a gun, in the end adrenaline propelled me to safety.

    1. Lyford

      Agree. A person who carries on a bike is probably going to be someone who’s already made the decision to arm themselves and carries as part of their everyday routine. Keys, wallet, phone, pistol and out the door. The “why” and “should I” decisions have already been made. The bike just brings different challenges for how to carry a firearm safely and discretely.

      The implications? The folks I know who carry go out of their way to avoid conflicts, because the last thing they want is to be drawn into a fight. They take the responsibility seriously.

      What was the name of the good scale?

    2. Gene Kriegsmann

      Brian, as one who does carry, I can tell you that any gun big enough to protect you from mama bear would simply be too big to carry comfortably on a bike. In that situation, adrenaline is you best defense.

  2. Lance Thompson

    I live in Wyoming and often ride on gravel roads near areas of wolves, mountain lions and bears. I have done rides of 50 to 110 miles by myself in these remote areas. Many times I may only see one or two other people so I take a handgun with me. I never know what I may see or encounter and with very little phone reception I feel that it is the only thing that might keep me safe. When I ride on the road in or around town I do not carry a gun. But in these areas I need something to protect myself if I ever need it I want to have it.

  3. Drwarrantchief

    Guns on bikes. Well i can see how defending myself with a gun is more effective then the water bottle (little squirt works great for dogs though) but in a moment where adrenaline may already be high and the competitive spirit is potentially reaching new levels a gun may not be the best idea. With that said i FULLY support someones right to carry and the gun doesn’t make me nervous. The person may or may not make me nervous. But if they tend to be that hot headed i likely wont be riding with them anyway. If i was bike camping-multi day traveling alone i likely would make room in a saddle bag.

  4. Gene Kriegsmann

    I ride about 10 hours a week, always solo. Most of my rides are on isolated farm roads or roads approaching a national park. I do have a concealed carry permit, but did not think about carrying largely because I didn’t own a small enough handgun to carry comfortable in my jersey back pocket. Concealed carry is exactly that, concealed. You can’t show that you are carrying. The gun can only be drawn if “a prudent man” would feel that there is an existential threat. Over the years, I have ridden for more than 40 years, I have experienced a large number of situations where a driver did something intended to cause either extreme fear or injury. I have been fortunate enough to have avoided injury, but I have noticed a greater tendency in recent years for this incidents to occur. A few weeks ago a passenger in a car threw a full quart water bottle at my back as the car passed me at a round 50 MPH, so the bottle was traveling at good deal of speed. I think he was aiming at my head, fortunately it only hit my upper left shoulder. I was on the shoulder of the road traveling at 22 MPH when I was hit. It caused pain but I maintained control of my bike. This is, obviously, not a shooting situation. However, this was just on the outskirts of a town, in a more isolated situation the same person may be willing to do something more dangerous. I have had cars pull in front of me and hit the brakes when I was cruising at speeds in the upper twenties or lower 30s. Again not a shooting situation, but clearly these people are aggressive and dangerous.
    I started carrying a small, flat, semiautomatic pistol in my jersey pocket in a pocket holster designed to disguise the outline of the gun. I hope I never have to draw it, but if a situation occurs in which I feel it is necessary, I would rather have it available than to wish I did. I don’t see it as any different that having a fire extinguisher in my kitchen. It may never be used, and I certainly hope it won’t be, but if the situation arises that calls for it, I’ll be really happy to have it.
    The points made during your discussion demonstrated a real ignorance of concealed carry. There have been incredibly few unjustified shootings by a concealed carry licensee. The carrying of a gun serves in many ways as real damper on letting your mouth run. The costs involved and the legal hassles when you do are pretty extreme, enough so that you aren’t going to even brandish your gun unless your life is in real jeopardy. Brandishing is, by the way, illegal. I have taken lots of training in gun handling and all of the legal issues surrounding concealed carry and gun ownership. Most people I know who carry have done the same. Don’t assume that just because you are ignorant everyone else shares your lack of knowledge. If you are going to pontificate on an issue, educate yourself about it first.

  5. Quentin

    I’m not a gun owner, so the question of carrying on a bike is not particularly relevant to me, but my frustration with the dog owners of west Texas has got me to the point of considering carrying pepper spray. I feel conflicted about it because most of the time the dogs aren’t especially threatening and I understand they are generally behaving as nature intended, but the frequency with which I have to deal with dogs compared to other places I’ve lived is striking, and I’ve had enough. I feel like I would be punishing the animal for its owner’s irresponsibility, but I don’t know what else to do.

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